A conversation is an interactive piece. There are 10 solenoids producing sounds and creating a composition between images and sounds. Each solenoid is coupled to a light. When the solenoid turns on, it makes visible the image attached to it. But, when the viewer/participant gets next to the piece, the experienced scenery breaks down. Its dimensions are very small so invites for closeness. However, the participant attempt of being part of this private world always fails.